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Sunday, 3 February 2019

List of Modern Royal Orient Movements


Having often benefited from reference materials provided by others, such as Stephen's list of vintage Orient movements, and Dan's compilation of modern Orient calibers, I felt the need to contribute to the group effort.

And, as I could find no well-organized online source of Royal Orient movements, it made sense to produce such a document. Pre-owned Royal Orients, while fairly hard to come by, represent an interesting proposition to watch collectors – they are mostly a bunch of very well made watches, housing decent movements, some encased in materials like silver and gold, and generally costing way less than comparable Grand Seiko watches (not to mention Swiss brands).

Looking at online listings of pre-owned RO's, they often lack in technical details – possibly not even known to their current owners. So I find that sharing such a list of Royal Orient movements would surely benefit both current owners and collectors looking to buy one.

So, here we go… but first, a few notes.



First of all, many of the movements used in Royal Orient are not the same as those used in regular Orients or even in Orient Star pieces. Being both unique and rare, finding information on these movements proved to be anything but trivial.

Now, I have limited myself to movements used in modern Royal Orients, dating more or less 20 years back. I also tried to make sure all information was cross-referenced between two sources at least, and in some cases more (when contradictions were found). Indeed I did come across misinformed sources. The following data therefore represents my best efforts to maintain accuracy. However, any information pertaining to old Orient movements may be prone to errors, so I would be grateful to any reader who finds an error for sending me correct details.



Below, you have the full information, both as a text table, and as an image. The text tables I had to break in half to keep in the format of the blog pages, but they are important so people using a search engine to find information would get to them easily. The image, provides you with all the data on a particular movement in one continuous row.

For those not familiar with Orient's JDM reference system, the movement code is represented by the last two letters of the model number. For instance, Royal Orient ref. WE0011JD uses the "JD" movement, corresponding to Cal. 40B50.

Code
Year Introduced
Caliber No.
Power Reserve
Accuracy (sec.)
Frequency
DN (1)
1998
7001
42 hr
+10/-5
21,600
FC
2000
46M
40 hr
+10/-5
21,600
FB (2)
2003
46L
40 hr
+10/-5
21,600
FL
2004
46T50
40 hr
+10/-5
21,600
FQ
2004
48B56
50 hr
+10/-5
21,600
JA
2004
88700
45 hr
+6/-4
28,800
NA
2007
50A40
40 hr
+25/-15
21,600
FS
2007
40Z60
40 hr
+10/-5
21,600
JB
2008
88A00
45 hr
+6/-4
28,800
EG
2008
48A40
50 hr
+10/-5
21,600
EK (3)
2008
40M51
40 hr
+10/-5
21,600
DU
2011
48Z40
50 hr
+10/-5
21,600
JD
2014
40B50
40 hr
+10/-5
21,600

 

Code

Jewels

Auto/HW

PR Indicator

Date

Seconds

Comments

DN (1)

17

Handwind

No

No

Small

 

FC

21

HW+Auto

Yes

window

Center

 

FB (2)

21

HW+Auto

Yes

window

Center

World Time

FL

23

HW+Auto

Yes

Sub-dial

Small

World Time

FQ

23

Handwind

Yes

No

Small

skeleton

JA

30

HW+Auto

No

window

Center

 

NA

21

HW+Auto

No

No

Center

Open heart

FS

24

HW+Auto

Yes

No

Small

Open heart

JB

30

HW+Auto

Yes

Window

Center

 

EG (3)

21

Handwind

Yes

No

Center

 

EK

22

HW+Auto

Yes

Window

Center

 

DU

20

Handwind

Yes

No

Small

skeleton

JD

22

HW+Auto

Yes

Sub-dial

Center

weekday

 (1)  DN – this is using the Swiss Peseux 7001 movement
     (later known as ETA 7001)

(2)  FB – similar to FA used in regular Orient but higher accuracy
     (instead of +25/-10)

(3)  EK – similar to EJ used in regular Orient but higher accuracy
     (instead of +25/-10)



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2 comments:

  1. Good job as always! I have some info about the DN caliber. I own WZ0031DN and its manual says the accuracy is +50/+-0 sec. That means, I suppose, cal.DN is the mostly unadjusted Peseux 7001.
    But my own one runs very accurately and I'm satisfied with it. ^_^

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    1. Hi! First, congrats on that very rare watch you own. It's a beauty. And, thanks for the update! It is indeed interesting that Orient claimed lower accuracy than actual performance and indeed, lower than what sellers claimed for the watch. Probably it is the Japanese habit of taking extra caution in what they promise to the customer - and they would definitely try to deliver much more than their promise.

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