Some names that pop up repeatedly throughout Orient's history bear much weight, like King Diver, M-Force and Royal Orient. Others seem to just float about, light and foamy, without drawing too much attention. Such is the name Jupiter.
Because it is such an unassuming side note in Orient's chronicles, not
much has been written about it. But still, there were enough nice Jupiters
produced over the years, it's worth mentioning a few of them.
We'll start off, rather surprisingly, with the most recent of them. The
relatively-modern Orient Jupiter was a rather faithful rendition of one of the
1950's model – in fact it was so faithful, Orient even modified one of its
then-current automatic, time-and-date movements, removed the date wheel and
rotor, and squeezed it into the authentically small 34mm case of the reissue.
Honestly, other than its minute dimensions, this is a lovely watch. Now
in hand-winding guise, a "19 jewel" text decorates the dial instead
of the usual "automatic", and the crown's "ghost-position" in-between
winding and setting the time reveals its movement's origin.
Orient produced two versions of this Jupiter: the gold-plated reference Tn33502G,
and stainless steel Tn33503S.
The original Jupiter of the mid 1950s was not much different, if we can
imagine it being clean and shiny (not many photos now exist of shiny 1950s
Jupiters…)
Also measuring 34mm across, with a simple yet elegant dial, this was
positioned below the Orient Star models of that era. And speaking of Stars and
Jupiters, Orient must have been looking to the sky for names then, as that was
also when an even more obscure model by the name Mars Orient was produced.
The original Jupiter with its T-type movement was replaced in the early
1960s by a new "showerproof" model, containing the newer N-type
caliber, still with no date function.
Between the 1950s and 1990s, the Jupiter name was occasionally attached
to different models, both automatic and quartz. Among those were
a diver, some dressy models, and even a couple of curious looking moon-phase
models having a fairly un-orient-like design – which might have been the reason
for branding them "Jupiter" (with no mention of Orient on the dial).
So this was a brief review of a name of no particular importance in the
history of Orient… but still, one that might yet be of interest for a collector
of inconspicuous old watches.
Pictures of the various watches that appear on this post were taken
from various old sale ads.
Hi. Anyone know where to get a replacement crystal for a Orient Bambino Version 4. I dropped my watch last night in the bathroom and it smashed.
ReplyDeleteI have read a post on here from 2020 but the poster was unable to get one. It would be a shame to have to bin the watch.
Orient Bambino Version 4 Classic Automatic FAC08004D0 AC08004D
That's not such an old model... have you tried your local Orient AD or any decent watchmaker and they couldn't source a crystal for you? That's a shame really. Indeed Version 4 is the problematic one... If you can't get any, I would try contacting Orient Japan.
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ReplyDeleteI have just read the post about the Orient Jupiters. It is really useful. I would like to ask for some opinion of yours. I came across a watch which looking for me had a Jupiter movement but the face said Royal Orient. I have uploaded two pictures about it here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-5PKvba7-XBePJ7BuwQvoDqvKz5S9dOD. What do you think about it?
Kind regards,
Hi! It's an N-type movement - it was used by both Royal Orients and Jupiters between 1958-1961.
DeleteHello! Thank you for your answer. What is strange for me: there is just a single Orient text on the movement. I have just seen this in pictures about Jupiter watches, but all of the Royal Orient that I have seen had some jewellery information on the bridge. Was there any difference between the movements in the two series?
DeleteThere were different versions of the movement, and I have definitely seen various writings on the bridge - some with just the brand, some with jewel count, and the more high end also with "5 adjusted".
DeleteHello Mr orient! I believe I have an 17 jewel orient t movement which needs a new canon pinion. Because it is loose . Will an orient dynamic or orient Jupiter be a good substitute for it ?
ReplyDeleteI have included a link for my watch for your assistance. Would you be able to tell me the model and year of make for this particular watch sir ?
Deletehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WtjmSxLg1saxR7iL6hWsZ9uDldaQX-d1
I have also heard that a 17 jewel seiko marvel might have the same movement inside . Is that true ?
DeleteCan an orient mars substitute it as well ?
DeleteHi. If you are looking at a first gen Jupiter with a T type movement then it should provide a replacement. Hard to tell about similar Seiko movements because Orient often made changes to the movements they borrowed.
DeleteI’m looking to combine the mars dial and its 19 jewel movement into a Jupiter case . Do you think it’s possible sir ? It’s because the jupiter movement is too damaged to be saved
DeleteThe movement should fit, not sure about the dial. It is similar size, but I can't tell how much work would be needed to actually fit it; I think it will be easier to just swap the movement without replacing the dial. And it would retain its authenticity.
DeleteMr orient a very late follow up but do you happen to know what movement is the one in the picture I uploaded thru the Google drive ? Would like to know more about the provenance of my watch
DeleteHi, that is a T type movement.
DeleteThank you very much sir!
DeleteHi would a Jupiter/Mars/ N type mainspring fit into a T type ? I’m looking for a t type mainspring but don’t seems to be able to find one anywhere. No mention of its Calibre or its parts numbers. Do you have any specifications I can use cause mines broken
ReplyDeleteI believe the N type mainspring would not fit the T Type. These are quite different movements.
DeleteHmmm would you suggest to just measure my broken mainspring and estimate the closest one ?
DeleteI guess that wouldn't hurt.
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